Occupy Wall Street Part Deux

| November 6, 2011 | 6 Comments

Occupy Wall Street Part Deux

Occupy Wall Street – Crapping Part Deux on police cars and having sex on the street will only get us so far.. We need to have some ideas and goals behind the protest!

So I have been catching some flak for my previous posts about Occupy Wall Street. But talk with no vision and protesting with no goals are counter-productive. So it is time for the leadership of Occupy Wall Street to get together and put a plan in motion!

Occupy Wall Street protest NYC

Occupy Wall Street Man Pooping On Police Car Oct 2011

Let’s get corporate America, the government and the entire 100% to all tighten our belts and work towards a better tomorrow.

Since the Occupy Wall Street movement likes to make waves – why not shoot for the stars and aim high?

This sort of goes against the core of the capitalist ideals, but perhaps desperate times call for drastic measures!

Here is a rough idea that OWS can latch onto (naturally there needs to be oversight and legal issues to address, but it is a start)

The Occupy Wall Street initiative for economic leadership and social responsibility:

Mantra: Our future is now and our place is here!

Goal: Lead the way to a stronger and fairer tomorrow.

Objectives: Getting corporations, government and the people to invest in tomorrow.

Steps and bench marks:

A- To raise as much as possible. Kicking off the donation would be a group of as many fortune 500 companies as possible to set aside 1,000,000,000.00 each – towards this venture.

B- Getting as many worldwide companies / organizations around the world to match (or even exceed) that donation.

C- Turning to small businesses to donate as much as possible.

D- Turning to the public to donate 1% of our personal wealth towards this venture.

E- Turning to congress to donate to the fund.

D- Creating a list of issues that can potentially be solved by investing money…

Couple having sex in public at Occupy Wall Street

Couple having sex in public at Occupy Wall Street


Couple having sex in public at Occupy Wall Street

1- Alternative energy – we set up a Manhattan type project where we sit down the leading minds in science, technology with people from the manufacturing, financing, banking (and so on) sectors to figure out the best way to go about creating the products, supporting the infrastructure and financing the development and implementation of the new products. They are not to call it off before we have the solutions in place. (We also announce that the convention be held in Detroit – a city that might end up leading the production end of this project).

2- Investing in the highest crime areas. We implement the broken window theory. We also get as many volunteers as possible to participate (That way we could get more results from our investments).

3- We invest in substance abuse rehabilitation programs and support networks.

4- We invest in shelters and public housing.

5- Go to the schools with the highest crime rate and implement the broken window theory for a whole 10 block radius at the very least. (And providing extra funds for security).

6- Providing computer (and other fields) job training programs and assistance with job placement.

7- Investing in after school programs and activities. Some could be clean-up projects and social support programs (big brothers, mentors and so on).

8-Investing and initiating area clean-ups – big and small areas.

9- Buying out bad mortgages in bulk and restructuring the loans (even if it means taking a financial loss).

10- Providing public office sharing spaces that are hi-tech and extremely affordable for small companies and start-ups.

11- Investing in local area inner-city playgrounds and public parks.

14- Investing in public mental illness clinics.

15- Investing in programs that deal with the arts.

16- Influencing our partners across the world to donate to our cause- a stronger America for a stronger world!

17- Creating more public housing with hopes of turning them into co-ops or condos that could be sold at a reduced price to the tenants.

18- Investing in medical and scientific research.

19- Making sure that everything is conceived, produced / manufactured and marketed by local USA companies only. In the case that materials and equipment are purchased they should only be allowed to buy products that were made in the USA.

20- Getting as many companies as possible to bring their offices and manufacturing jobs back to the USA and assisting in financial costs of relocation (incentives).

21- Investing in USA start-ups that do at least 90% of the actual production work in the USA.

22- Pushing for a 1% across-the-board tax and those funds will directly go to paying off the national debt. Corporate / income / sales / import / capital gains – with no cap on everyone earning earning $20,000 or more.

23- Investing a chunk in us – 10 year government bonds.

Just think of the possibilities – Apple , Google, Exon, BP and many others have trillions sitting in bank accounts, but what good does it do for those funds to be sitting there with no buyers?

The time for “trickle up” economics is now!

That way they will at least be saying something rather than the usual hot air and no substance.

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  • A.B.

    I liked his first post a lot better. This just seems a capitulation. Forced "corporate donations" to placate those that dont want to work? "Restructuring" loans to obliviate the disincentives for purchasing above your means? Bringing jobs "back" to the country which will mean higher consumer-product prices for all? None of these sound like very good or worthwhile ideas (not to mention unfair for those who work and are responsible with their bills). As for investing in cleanups, job programs, crime prevention, shelters and clinics, those are great causes all, but spending even more on top of an already fairly large welfare system is just a fancy way of saying you want (much) higher taxes. I tend to favor mandatory cheap-labor programs for those that dont work but want benefits, greater criminal enforcement for those who think an acceptable outlet for their frustrations is hurting others (even if that means hurting businesses or nameless victims through fraud), and higher accountability for those that want to borrow what they cant afford.

    • Nature Lover

      Hey A.B.

      This post was about what I thought they should be saying… which is why i have this this at the bottom of it: "That way they will at least be saying something rather than the usual hot air and no substance."

  • Gymnos


    This post is just another sign of how out of touch you are with both the spirit and the activities of what is goin on down on wall street.

    At the same moment that you want one person to be a singular leader when everyone participating wants to act by consensus, you single out one wacko as representative of them all. Well one guy defecating on a police car is not even remotely representative of what's going on downtown, and you would know that if you participated instead of sitting back and pontificating.


    As for the folks having sex, the exact same rationale is at play. And it looks like they are sleeping more than sexing it up, and we don't know anything about them nor the situation in which this photo was taken. The fact that the current state of the nudist community basically holding a sex-negative attitude is rather small minded in the first place, but now placing that personal value onto every other human being is hardly the kind of America or nudist movement I want to be a part of.


    Perhaps you should let the folks who really are participating in the day to day organizing to represent themselves. At the same time, you have a litany of things that all would have been tried if we had an accountable government or a economic system that works.. In point of fact, we don't. All your ideas are fine, but you won't get them implemented.. Ever. Because you don't have a strategy for implementation in such a corrupt and corporate owned system.

    Fair to say I feel sorry for the America that suffers from poor reasoning, lazy intellectualism, and a continued sense that some of us are above others because of slivers of economic advantage. We propagate this ignorance by supporting an education system designed to create producers and consumers.. not citizens.

    I don't pretend to have the answers, but I know the system is failing. I don't pretend to have answers, but I know that the folks who SHOULD have the answers are the first to take office and the last to work for real solutions. Neither of our political parties is immune from this inanity, and it's both insulting and sickening to see.

    Please stop writing about this, as you really are not willing to do the work to authentically get a full view of what is going on. Let's get back to writing about the next nude event we can attend to help us forget how screwed our country really is.


    • Nature Lover

      Gymnos – you know I love you, but if you think for a second that getting arrested and screaming for change with absolutely no ideas is a good thing – then I am sorry to say that it is you who is sorely misguided.

      I will try to address all of your issues (but it has been a long day so please excuse me if I miss something).

      One guy defecating???? The city of New York has hired more staff than ever before to clean up all the shit that the occupiers leave behind.

      The couple having sex – I was not there when the picture was taken – but don't most couples like to cuddle or sleep after sex??? Would you rather next time we get an actual penetration shot? Or just bring popcorn? There is a difference between nudism and overt sexuality – and for good reason.

      Me speaking for Occupy Wall Street – It is nothing but pure hubris on your part to assume that I speak for any one but me. Did you read the whole post or just bits and pieces??? I am saying that I would rather them say something like the things I have mentioned above rather than bitch and moan about life. Or better yet how about them getting a job and paying back the city for all the millions that the city was forced to pay as a direct result of Occupy Wall Street? Who do you think is paying for all the extra security and added sanitation and god knows what else??

      I agree that there are problems but the occupiers (or squatters for that matter) have suggested absolutely nothing and have said absolutely nothing. It is so easy to sit and complain – why not do something proactive for a change? They want change?? Then put up people in the next elections – local, state and federal and get things done. None of this means a thing unless something happens and with every passing day they are losing more and more of the momentum and are reaching a point where people are just too tired of their kvetching to care… not to mention the fact that there might be a growing number of people who might just be anti change because of these people.

      It is my tax money that is going towards these people and I want my money back!!! Or at least to hear something other than their mantra of the 1%. Btw… you realize where they got a bunch of their stats and when those numbers were published and by whom – right? Not too accurate these days.

      In any case – I still love you and we can agree to disagree.

      I believe in fighting for something – they believe in fighting against something. They like bitching and complaining – sorry but that does not do it for me.

      When Obama was elected – were you not happy? Did you not support him and his campaign for change???? I could not vote for him because I had no idea what he stood for – he also had no real plan and look where that got us!

      I would rather support a movement that stands for something rather than a movement that is against pretty much everything.

      It might be the fatigue talking here, but in a lot of ways the occupiers are a great symbol for how great this country is, and on the flip side they also represent a lot of what is wrong.

      • dan

        "nature lover" is equally as clueless as the writer of the original post. writer of the original post, your intentions seem genuine, but please do more research before these posts. nature lover:

        what staff has the city hired to clean up? can you cite a source for this claim? the occupiers are cleaning the park themselves.

        nobody is "bitching and moaning about life." ows is talking about very real and severe issues like income inequality in america, which is worse than any other industrialized world. they are talking about the complete decimation of real citizen involvement in politics by corporate money. they are talking about the easing of regulations on banks that leads them to make extremely risky investments that then leads them to crash the economy and require bailouts. unless you think these are positive things, its counterproductive to call calling attention to very serious issues "bitching and moaning"

        the city is not "being forced to pay millions." bloomberg has chosen to waste money on dozens of cops to ring the park at all times, high tech surveillance toys to monitor it 24/7 from multiple angles, and other voluntary expenditures. with such a peaceful movement, a fraction of the police presence is needed. again, if you claim there's "added sanitation" needed, please cite a source, or i will continue to believe you pulled that one out of your ass.

        "I agree that there are problems but the occupiers (or squatters for that matter) have suggested absolutely nothing and have said absolutely nothing."

        absurd. everyone down there has a solution, there are teach-ins with economists. most of these people are probably better informed on politics than you are.

        "why not do something proactive for a change?"

        protesting and direct action are proactive. the civil rights movement and the antiwar movements accomplished a lot with the same tactics. with ows, the media narrative has changed. before, "debt" was the main issue, and inequality and unemployment were only mentioned in passing. it has accomplished a lot already, in public awareness. new coalitions and avenues for dialogue, for example, between unions and non-union workers, middle-class whites and lower-income blacks and hispanics, are being forged. your cynicism and dismissal is COUNTERactive, in fact.

        "Btw… you realize where they got a bunch of their stats and when those numbers were published and by whom – right? Not too accurate these days."

        please elaborate

        "I would rather support a movement that stands for something rather than a movement that is against pretty much everything."

        patently false. ows is PRO-wall street regulation, PRO-small business, PRO-funding for social expenditures, and other . you clearly have done very little research and operate from preconceived notions. there are many like you, who can write pages and pages about something you know so little about. do you read the new york post or watch fox news, by chance?

        anyway, nice chat. you clearly have a lot of hate for whatever reason. supplant it into positive energy, and direct it somewhere more productive.

        • Nature Lover

          Sorry it has taken me so long to respond but we have had so many things going on as of late… so better late than never ;)

          The Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement has been gaining media attention as the many camps have been recently cleared out of the parks they had been using as around-the-clock protest sites by the police. The Occupy Wall Street movement began in New York City in September, 2011 when a group of protesters congregated in Zuccotti Park near New York’s financial district. The protest began as an outcry against what the protesters claim is an unequal amount of sway large corporations and the wealthiest members of society have in influencing the political process in their favor, and the increasingly disparate distribution of wealth in the United States. The movement quickly gained popularity and spread across the nation with many OWS groups springing up in cities across the United States. It even gained an international following with OWS movements forming in Europe and South America.

          However, as the protest has continued, the lack of formal leadership and a clear list of objectives or demands began to plague the public perception of the movement. While many agree that the movement raises many valid points, and public perception of the movement has initially been positive, the lack of clear leadership has resulted in confusion over what exactly the movement seeks to obtain in their continued protests. As the movement is beginning to enter its third month, it is becoming increasingly disorganized and splintered. Some members are focusing more on side issues such as student loan forgiveness, while others are focusing their ire on the perceived collusion between corporations and government officials. Recently, many local police departments have cracked down on the OWS encampments and have been occasionally accused of using undue force in their crowd disbursement techniques. The most notable instance of conflict between the police and the OWS protesters was in Oakland, California in October 2011 when the police attempts to disperse the protest became violent, and footage of the Oakland police using tear gas and other controversial methods to disperse the crowds was seen and criticized around the world.

          “We are the 1%” Is the OWS Movement Accurate?

          The term “1% vs. 99%” has been a common phrase bandied about by both the supporters and detractors of the Occupy Wall Street movement, but as with most slogans, it is not entirely accurate. While the idea that wealth has become increasingly concentrated within a smaller group since the 1970s is true, the actual distribution of wealth has not been as one sided as the OWS movement would believe. In fact, the hyper rich were seriously damaged by the Great Recession, losing as much as 19.7 percent of their income and wealth.

          In order to become part of the top 1 percent does not require one to be what is commonly considered a member of the ultra rich. In fact, to be part of the top 1 percent only requires a family income of $343,927 in 2009 dollars. While wealthier than many, that is far from the image of the rich that most people have when they think about the top 1 percent.

          The truly wealthy, those who are often thought of when the OWS slogan is used, are actually the top .01 percent of the earners in the United States, and far outpace even the rest of the top 1 percent. These individuals earn at least 2 million a year, and control about 10 percent of the economy. The OWS slogan fails to address that great difference between the top and bottom ranks of the top 1 percent.

          Finally, the OWS slogan fails to note that there is a vast difference between being at the top of the “99 percent” and being at the bottom. The top 19 percent of Americans controlled 50.3 percent of national wealth in 2007, as opposed to the rest of the population, the bottom 80 percent, which controlled just 7.00 percent of the total national wealth.

          While not as catchy, the OWS slogan could be stated as “we are the 80 percent” as it is in that lower 80 percent where the full influence of the Great Recession has been felt. The Great Recession may have harmed all levels of society, but it hos most seriously harmed those in the lower 80 percent and it is their living conditions most people think about when they hear “we are the 99 percent,” showing that the OWS movement is at least partially inaccurate in its claims.

          Although many people may find themselves in support of the current protest movement, Occupy Wall Street, they may not be seeing the truth concerning how this movement has affected the lives and businesses of people living in New York City. While this movement has spread national, and in some places, global, the toll that the protesters are taking on New York may be worth more than a few days off of work. There are several reasons why the Occupy Wall Street Movement has affected not only the people of New York City, but the economy there, as well.

          An economic issue that many people are not taking into consideration is the fact that the Occupy Wall Street Movement affects the economy of New York City; however, the costs are not only restricted to the City of New York: cities across the United States are now faced with State expenses because of the spreading Occupy Movement. The United State’s economy, as a whole, has become affected by this movement. If a person were to consider the fact that so many people have taken off days off of work to protest, or the fact that the states must handle the cleanup, security, and maintenance of such a protest, they would quickly realize that the Occupy Wall Street Movement is having a very negative affect on society altogether.

          A consistently overlooked cost to Americans as a result of the Occupy Movement is the fact that the states themselves must cover the expenses these protests have caused. Being aware of the fact that protesting has a wide variety of costs is very important, as these protests continuously take their toll on American Lives. Protesters, who consistently remain in one place for a large amount of time, end up charging the states quite a large amount of money for upkeep. Sanitation is a big issue in protest areas, and the City of New York must cover the costs. The city has placed portable toilets and other facilities around protest areas to keep human waste to a minimum, and the costs are coming out of New Yorker’s pockets. That’s not to mention the fact that tax-payers must also cover the costs of policing.

          In New York city alone, an estimated two million dollars has been a reported cost of policing the protests. These costs are in addition to standard policing costs, and the dollar signs continue to grow larger and larger with time. Protesters must consider the fact that, while this movement appears to be in favor of the 99 percent, they are actually costing tax-payers millions to sustain it. Hiring extra police officers to police protesters areas is a major expense that should not be taken lightly. Containing protesters to designated areas is not always an easy task, and the New York City Police Department has spent millions out of necessity. While police expenses have expanded to an extra two million dollars at the start of the protests, they have now reached a total of five million dollars.

          Another expense that the protesters of Wall Street have caused the City of New York is the economy overall. These protesters have occupied high-traffic areas, which means that businesses and other sources of industry have suffered greatly. Protesters have blocked city streets, areas of business, and tourist areas in this process, which means business have had a difficult time staying open. In a Fox News report, it was stated that protesters had caused a cafe in New York city to downsize their employee numbers, as a means to keep their doors open. The fact that many businesses will have to close their doors because of the Occupy Wall Street Movement is a very good possibility. Businesses in protests areas have lost $479,400 since the beginning of the protests.

          Many people are losing their jobs because of the Occupy Wall Street Movement. Besides the fact that companies are losing businesses, many people participating in the Occupy Movement have lost their jobs as a result. People, who have consistently called into work, or made their position on the Movement apparent, have lost their jobs. People who have lost their jobs through this movement haven’t just cost themselves money, either. Any amount of work that is lost means that the money potentially earned is no longer circulating throughout the economy. People failing to come to work are systematically shutting down certain areas of American economy.

          The police have made every effort possible to retain this protest. While free speech is legal under the American Constitution, the costs are quite high for law enforcement officials and tax payers. If a person is interested in joining the Occupy Wallstreet Movement, he or she should consider the fact that Americans, and the American economy, are going to suffer because of it.