What’s the Point of Nudist Nude Photo Blogs ?

| September 17, 2014 | 42 Comments

Do nude nudist photo blogs really promote the ideals of naturism?

Nudist Photo Blogs Without Context Are Just Blogs of Nude Photos

Nudist Photography and Photo Nude Blogs – With this question, I’m not talking about the photos used to represent topics for discussion, or that represent organizations, or the couple of photos that go along with an article.

I’m mainly talking about nude photo blogs and websites. The ones that are just photo after photo of naked people doing everyday activities.

Posing and smiling, swimming naked, playing sports, making food, eating food, sunbathing nude, walking on a beach, etc.

Here are the general characteristics of the nudist nude blogs and websites I’m referring to:

  • Little to no context is given with nude photos
  • Just nude photos – no back-story or topic offered for discussion or to provoke thought
  • Naked People in the photos are all one gender, one body type, one race, etc.
  • The only “interesting” thing about the nude blogs is that the photos have nudity
  • The nude photos have no intention or stated purpose other than to “promote naturism”
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Nudist Nude Photo Blogs

There are many, many nude “nudist photo blogs” on Tumblr. Granted, some of these are actually voyeur / soft core porn blogs, and those are pretty easy to identify. Their photos are mainly focused on genitals and breasts.

In others, the cast is entirely made up of young nubile women looking unawares on a nude beach. Some may even feature voyeuristic images as if they were taken secretly and without the person’s knowledge or permission. Or the photos resemble mainstream soft core porn straight out of Playboy.

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Nudist Photography Blog? Look! Boobs!

Just because people are naked in the pictures, it doesn’t make it a “naturist” photo!

But enough about the titillation nude “nudist” blogs. There are others that focus on real nudist photos, with different types of bodies. The more “true nudist” blogs will feature naked pictures that aren’t sexual or voyeuristic in nature. But even if these are photos of smiling, happy presumed-to-be naked nudists just having innocent fun… I still say, what is the point?

Certainly there is no interest in them for most real nudists. I personally find them boring. They’re not original nor are they artistic or interesting – at least to me.

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An example of a boring nudist photo blog post. Without context, what is a person supposed to think of this?

I can’t help but wonder what non-nudists think about such images? Do the photos help normalize nudity and reduce shame toward the naked human body? Do they encourage people to try naturism? Are people looking at all the photos and thinking – “Gee this looks great, I want to try naturism now”? My guess is no.

My guess is that the biggest fans of these nude photo blogs and online “nudist” picture galleries are, for the most part, men and college age boys who get sexual gratification from looking at naked photos.

I’ve also seen sites that are dedicated to nonsexual nudist photos, but they only show young, thin / “sexy” women. I’d write it off as a titillation blog, but the weird thing is, some of these photo curators genuinely seem to think they are promoting naturism.

Their site features one body type and almost only women. Still, they believe that they are spreading the word about naturism.

A telling sign with regards to the nude-photo bloggers on Tumblr is their followers. You don’t get 10,000 followers in one or two months because people find naturism really interesting. I think it’s more likely your followers have a greater interest in boobs, vaginas or penises.

There are exceptions. Oddly, though, they are mostly from outside the nudie world. There are nude photo sites with a different and effective purpose. Examples of these would be body-positive photo galleries that address body image issues. There are nude photography projects that explore different ideas or themes. There are talented photographers, artists really, who portray the naked body in a unique way.

With these nudist nude photo blogs, though, I just don’t get it. Why are so many people from within the nudist world so focused on the images and not on the substance of our lifestyle? Why do we have to go to mainstream to find such quality content?

What do you think? Are photo blogs really an effective way to tell people about naturism? And to encourage them to learn about it or try it? Or are these nudist bloggers just kidding themselves in thinking they’re really promoting naturism?

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Author of Felicity's Blog. Co-founder of Young Naturists America. 3rd-generation nudie. Avid reader. Feminist. 70% vegan, 30% vegetarian. When I'm not busy eating, I'm writing about naturism, censorship, topfree equality, body image and other fun topics. I like feedback, so plz leave a comment when you've got something to say!
  • Sadly the Bible has no true point of origin in terms of who actually wrote it? The King James version is nothing but a conglomerate opinion of 17th Century British Bible scholars who had no access to any ancient scrolls or papyrus.  They just compiled what had been written over the centuries prior and made choices including books they considered “Outside The Bible Context” known as Gnostic books which often have more fact in them then the accepted ones! Scary to think how many have died over such totally undocumented works and writings! The disciples didn’t appear to write anything down but relied on others who didn’t walk with Christ to transmute and convey all of this. The same for the Old Testament! Scary and only now are we waking up to this huge fraud!

  • livefyrebob Jag2u727 mpapai jochanaan Very few and very far inbetween as Larry Flynt once said “Religion has had it’s hand on the crotch of America since Plymouth Rock!”

  • PeterVernon

    Dave_n_NM Normal! Horible thing to be called.

    “Normal is an illusion. What’s normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.” – Morticia Addams

  • PeterVernon

    FelicityJones nudiarist 
    As with beauty, naturist, art, titilation, pornography, or crappy is in the eye of the beholder.

  • livefyrebob

    Jag2u727 mpapai jochanaan 
    In my experience, there are exceptions to Jag’s rule.

  • mpapai jochanaan  Any Bible discussion always leads down the same pathways. An old desert book written by old homophobic sexist men who were genocidal in their rages and pious and hypocritical in the way they tried and mostly succeeded in getting society to conform!

  • nudrus

    mpapai jochanaan  Not really true, all in the context  check out http://www.figleafforum.com

  • All-Nudist.com

    PeterVernon Excellent article on your website, Peter.  We’ll be sharing it on ours soon.  Say hi to Kim for us and enjoy your summer!

  • jochanaan

    mpapai jochanaan Well, it might be interesting to dialogue about it, but since you and I are on the same page about nudity, this is not the best place for it.  Thanks for your interest!

  • jochanaan Most of the verses against nudity that I found are not in Leviticus 18 & don’t have to do with incest.

  • jochanaan

    Actually, many of those verses are in Leviticus 18, and if one insists on a foolishly literal interpretation, they prohibit fathers showering with their sons or adults taking care of disabled parents.  So in those verses at least, something other than simple nudity must be happening; and in fact, the traditional understanding is that those verses aren’t actually about nudity but rather about varying degrees of incest.  And most of the other verses that mention nakedness have traditionally been misinterpreted in just this way.

  • jochanaan

    mpapai The trouble with much of “Christianity” is that it has added a little too much to the teachings of the Bible and especially those of Jesus of Nazareth.  In fact, there is no general prohibition against nudity in the Bible, and there are many Christian naturists in this country.  It is not Christianity itself that is the problem; rather, a false “Puritanism” that is more about “Thou shalt not…” and less about loving God and our neighbors as ourselves.  Yes, nudism is a challenge to many churches–but not to the Bible or the Bible’s God, Who made us in His image, naked and unashamed.

  • WzrdWizitch Not to say that there’s anything wrong with getting a sense of community from nude photos, but just wanted to point out that there are online groups for socializing with other naturists. There’s Facebook, Google+, Google groups, Yahoo groups. Interacting in these groups, I would think, would be more satisfying than just looking at nude photos. But I can understand how the nude photos can play a role when you feel isolated.
    And if it’s any consolation, the outdoor nudie season is still only a few months long in NY, so we end up keeping up with a lot of people online too :)

  • Smoothalx Agree with both points. People taking photos & posting them online is wrong. These voyeur photos should not be reblogged or supported.
    And yeah, for a naturist blog I think it’s important to portray different body types and use photos of real, average people! Otherwise with the porn star photos, it’s really catering to the male gaze and it’s not real. When people see those blogs it should be no wonder that they think they need to get in shape and look a certain way to try naturism.

  • Thank you for reaching out to me to include me in the conversation, Felicity.

    Not to start off all patriotic off the bat but this is sort of the burden of living in a free country. A big portion of the population wants to see one gender, one body type, etc. so a market is created for it and someone else fills that market.  I post a fair number of similar photos on my tumblr and wordpress as I consider this a gateway to getting people to think about nudism.  I actually use pornographic tags in order to jujitsu the people looking for something more illicit into content that gives them something to think about, like people watering their lawn, doing laundry or an actual pro-nudist article from the web.  Personally, I have drawn lines not to be crossed on my blogs like no blatant crotch shots, no erections, no one who appears to have not given permission, no celebrities who are not promoting nudism, etc.  Otherwise, there is not much we can do aside from carrying on with our side of the discussion.

    I also think one has to consider the technology.  Wordpress is good for getting information out while something like tumblr is basically a photo sharing site.  It’s hard to get images into links or into text posts on tumblr; the technology either does not accept the photo or,through some voodoo, doesn’t display an image without clicking on it.  A straight picture post, however, is easy to create but the accompanying text often gets lost.  So a tumblr blog is going to essentially be a collection of images.
    It’s up to the viewer, in the end.  If they are looking for titillation but find a blog serving up something mundane, they are free to explore and hopefully learn something or they are free to move along.

  • WzrdWizitch

    Some fascinating points being made here. I’m interested to note that none of the points raised seem to fully correlate to my own experiences with online nudist photo blogs. 

    I’m something of a lone nudist – my partner supports but does not partake of my lifestyle choice. I live in a rural area and exist on a very low income which makes it very difficult for me to enjoy social nudity in clubs which require membership fees and so forth. For someone like me these photo-blogs offer something that does not seem to have occurred to other commenters here.

    That something is a sense of fellowship. The photo above of a gentleman watering his lawn is far from boring to me. As a gardener who takes pride in his lawn I derive a sense of companionship and connection to anyone who willingly takes on the task of maintaining a nice garden. In the same way a cyclist will feel a connection to photographs of other cyclists. I feel the same sense of connection with photographs of naked people. Naked gardening images are a bonus!

    What I derive from these photos is utterly non-sexual (although I can appreciate a successfully titillating image as well as the next person). I gain a sense of ‘community’ with other naturists – for a lone nudist like myself it’s the closest I can get to social nudity. I cannot attend social nude events such as Naked Bike Rides or monthly club swimming nights etc very often as I live in an isolated location.

    For me casually wandering through a nudist photo blog and glancing at a series of nude pictures like the ‘boob’ picture and the ‘hose’ picture in Felicity’s post is the equivalent (or more accurately, the closest I can get) to casually wandering through a popular busy nudist beach. I get essentially random glimpses into the lives of fellow naturists and, above all else, a feeling that I’m not alone. 

    The associations I have with nudity are positive and healthy and I derive a simple pleasure from seeing others enjoying those same positive and healthy associations.

    Perhaps if I was in a situation where I was socialising regularly with other fellow naturists as Felicity does in her role with YNA I might be more inclined to disparage nude photo blogs. As it is I have followed Nudiarist and his blogs for many years and subscribe to several blogs that I feel the closest affinity to. This applies not only to my interest as a nudist but also my interests as a photographer and a graphic artist. 

    I also follow various science blogs, musicians blogs, gardening blogs, movie blogs and spiritually oriented blogs. In every case the chief reward I derive from these blogs is a sense of comradeship, community and connection with my fellow human beings – regardless of what they are or are not wearing!

    In closing, I suspect that the distaste I experience at seeing exploitive and/or voyeuristic images is much the same as anyone elses who has a modicum of respect for themselves and their fellow humans. The point for me is that there are other purposes and rewards from nude photographs that go way beyond the needs of pornography or the promotion of naturist values.

  • While I think it is an interesting question, I feel we may
    be overanalyzing it.  In my opinion sites
    like Flickr, Shutterfly, Tumblr or even Facebook are about sharing photos and
    may be ideas.  Do photos of scenery,
    objects or clothed people need to have a purpose in order to be shared?  Maybe the purpose is as simple as sharing a
    photo regardless of whether the subject is clothed or not.

    Obviously there are a great variety of photos out
    there.  Some are boring to me, so I can
    simply ignore those.  Others are of
    sceneries, waterfalls, lakes, etc. where a single or group of nude bodies definitely
    add to the artistic value of the photo in my opinion.  I do feel that these have value in promoting
    naturism regardless of whether the subjects in the photos may consider themselves
    naturists or not.
    I also think that photos of groups of individuals in
    non-sexual situations help promote naturism or nudism by breaking the
    perception of most of society that nudity = sex.  Photos taken on the WNBR, Bare Runs, World
    Naked Skinny Dipping records, etc. fall in this category.  While the subject may not be nudist or
    naturist it does reflect the human body and body acceptance in non-sexual
    manner.

    Of course I agree that not every photo of a naked person promotes
    naturism, some are clearly intended to promote specific websites such as dating
    sites or porn sites, others are voyeuristic or exhibitionist.  I personally dislike the headless photos, the
    voyeuristic photos taken on beaches with concealed cameras and sites that try
    and use nudist photos to redirect the viewer to a porn site.

    Finally there are all the ‘selfies ‘ taken by many young
    people on the internet.  While some may
    be staged, or sent to a friend who the posts them on the Internet  many others do appear genuine.  Don’t these photos reflect some form of body
    confidence and body acceptance possible expressed on website where they may not
    have the confidence to do it at home or some other social setting?  Could this be a road towards nudism or simply
    sexual gratification?  How can we really
    know the intention of the individual posting the photo?

    However, while we probably all can agree that there is good
    and bad nudist or naturist photos, I agree that in many cases it will depend on
    the eye of the beholder.  Personally, I
    think it should work like clothing optional beaches should work, if you are not
    interested in the photos don’t look at the just like if nude beaches are not
    for you, don’t go, but respect the right of naturist to have designated
    clothing optional beaches.

    In conclusion, I do feel that some of these photos make
    contribute to making some people more open to nudity and body acceptance.

  • I have similar worries as the ones you mention. I really do not see a problem posting pictures from nudists – naturists. Even though a story or at least a caption would be more appreciated, just a picture I believe it’s fine. What I’m concerned about is mainly two points:
    First, I doubt that many of the people in these pictures know that a picture from them is on the Internet. You can tell that many of them were taken without their knowledge. Most of these cases are taken on public nude beaches.
    Second, pictures from soft porn sites that pretend to be from true nudists – naturists. It is OK to show naked bodies and try to “normalize” nudity but these picture may not serve that purpose effectively.

  • nudiarist

    JordanBlum nudiarist FelicityJones

    a) If it makes you feel better, use the word “written” instead of “recorded”
    b) Photography is an art form. Certainly there is bad art and good art, much of it subjective, but art nonetheless.
    c) I don’t condone voyeuristic photography, but if you are naked in Times Square, on a bike ride, or at a beach, people will take your photo. Generally I don’t post such voyeuristic photos, unless they are of the WNBR, which is a public event..
    d) Felicity draws many arbitrary lines when differentiating between what is good, and what is bad, for nudism. That’s not a slam against her, just an observation of what she is doing in her essay. People draw arbitrary lines all the time.
    e) The debate about what makes good art versus what makes bad art is a never ending circle. Some people love Picasso, others hate his work. Some praise Spencer Tunick, others think he should be arrested (which has happened to him a few times, I believe)
    f) What exactly is “artistic merit”? For some the nudes in Playboy are pornographic, for others they are artistic. Or you can just go with what Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart once said about defining pornography – “I know it when I see it.”
    g) Did you really just say that art generally reflects “the values of that society”? You do realize that most of the great art throughout history has pushed those values, not conformed to them. Look for example at Manet’s “Olympia” and “Luncheon in the Grass” and how  those pieces shocked society by presenting issues of sexuality and prostitution as fine art. More recently, Robert Mapplethorpe’s works drew fierce criticism wherever they were displayed, And do you really believe that Felicity, by stripping nude in Times Square and having her body painted reflects broad, general, American values? No, art is at its best when it CHALLENGES societal norms, which is what Andy Golub and his models are doing. I give Felicity and anyone else involved in those events great respect for putting themselves on the line for art and body freedom.
    So my “in closing” remark is just this – artistic merit is in the eye of the beholder, and it’s not up to any single individual to decide what, if anything, said art does for anything.

  • livefyrebob

    Some thoughts …

    we’re all on the journey to human wholeness

    we experiment with our sexuality

    we present ourselves in a variety of ways, including selfies of various kinds

    as we mature, our presentations of ourselves may become more graceful

    may we embody — pun intended — better and better expressions of love and truth

  • Toga1cat

    Eloquent . Jordan & Felicity

  • CampFullMonte

    Couldn’t agree more and your article has inspired us to redouble our efforts to publish photos on our blog and website that would illicit yes answers to the key questions you cite “Do the photos help normalize nudity and reduce shame toward the naked
    human body? Do they encourage people to try naturism? Are people looking
    at all the photos and thinking – “Gee this looks great, I want to try
    naturism now”?”

  • nudiarist FelicityJones Hey
    Chet – nice to hear from you again. I would like to start off my making
    a small correction… When you said: “The human race has been creating
    visual arts since well before recorded history” I am assuming you mean
    written history as paintings do record historical events and offer a
    glimpse into the lives of ancient civilizations.As
    for the debate with Felicity… When you brought up the word “art” you
    shifted the debate. Posting sexy pictures is not art, especially those
    that were taken in secret and posted without the knowledge nor
    permission of the person in that image. 
    Felicity
    did not draw any arbitrary line, not as far as I can tell. But there is
    a line between nudist and pornographic and I think we can both agree on
    that. The problem is that you don’t seem to have a coherent and
    constant view (or it may be just the way I read your comment)…. On the
    one hand – bring on the nudes but on the other you say that not all /
    any nude photos are good for naturism. Most of us will agree with you
    when you say that nude photos and art which celebrate the human body are
    positive for nudism. But then you open the door to the same debate
    about art and what constitutes a celebration of the human body – both
    are purely subjective – thus the debate continues.
    Again,
    I agree, and my guess is that Felicity does too that nudists should
    embrace nude art. My hope is that nudists embrace art in general. But
    there needs to be artistic merit otherwise you are taking away from
    those who are considered to be true artists.
    Your
    past and present accomplishments are nice. Your short stint in the AANR
    PR and all the other things are great and I really hope you keep at
    them. But, for better or worse, you are most known for your nudiarist
    blogs. It is what you have been doing consistently and for the longest
    time. Thus the “nude photo blogger” comment. It was not meant as a dig.
    I
    also need to correct another issue with your comment about the body
    painting project. Your statement “No words are needed because you are
    making an artistic statement” is off. We had signs up, the models were
    chanting body positive messages and we made sure that people knew
    exactly what is going on and why. She also took a major role in putting
    together the NYC body painting day in addition to being painted herself.
    So she was not just a canvas.
    At
    the end of the day, art is important and values are vital. They both go
    hand in hand as the art that is produced will generally reflect the
    values of that society (in a broad general sense). 
    So in closing, I agree with Felicity – naked pictures with no artistic merit do absolutely nothing for anything.

  • nudiarist FelicityJones  I agree we need a program of unapologetic Nudist and that will require a pro  active approach by clubs and resorts all over the country whereby they offer discounts and bonus privileges for  those willing to tell their story in pictures and hopefully some words.  I’ve seen young 20 something couples and 30 somethings and 40 and 50’s who  would make great “Poster Children” for this kind of publicity and it would be clear by the non sexual but possibly sensual nature of the stories that this is a lifestyle all by itself that America is becoming more interested in.

  • nudiarist

    FelicityJones Let me add one more thing. There is a serious shortage of “true” nudist or naturist photos out there, simply because people are afraid of being “found out” and perhaps losing their jobs. Aside from AANR’s Bulletin and The Naturist Society’s magazine, and some here and there from YNA, there’s nothing available to the public. All the nudist magazines are gone. There’s a site called “The Naked Club” which produces some fine images, but they are all under copyright and only a few are available for reblogging on Tumblr. Blue Turtle Productions has produced a few fine videos for free, and ClothesFree.com has some good stuff but you have to pay for a membership. The issue is not one of too much “non nudist” imagery, but a serious lack of the real thing to share online. Oh, and there are some great images online from Andy Golub’s work and Spencer Tunick’s installations, but those are not really naturist, more like fine art.
    The best defense is generally seen to be a good offense. Nudism and naturism seem to be constantly on the defensive, and until people are willing to “come out” and be proud, the nudist idea will continue to fade into oblivion. We need to stop complaining about things over which we have no control, and begin fighting back with our own images and ideas.

  • PeterVernon

    No they’re not helpful in promoting our lifestyle choices. I’ve always maintained that when it comes to marketing our choices to others the usage of images has to be very carefully considered. To much visual information can cause the shutters to come down very quickly.
    Tell the story and let them fill in the blanks.
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  • nudiarist

    FelicityJones nudiarist Well now you are steering the debate to one about defining what is, and what is not, art. As I previously stated, the value and meaning of art is generally left to the observer. The artist sometimes has a specific message to send, but 100 people who see the work will often have 100 different interpretations.
    And then you want to somehow draw this arbitrary line between what constitutes a nudist photo, and what constitutes porn. American society in general defines ANY nude photo as being pornographic or indecent, especially when it comes to images of children. Even toddler girls are supposed to wear tops when they go to the swimming pool. So what you personally perceive to be nudist will be seen as titillating to many, even though you see otherwise. I guarantee that countless teenage boys have found sexual stimulation from their parents’ nudist magazines over the decades.
    This is not a new debate in the nudist world. Lee Baxandall scolded Ed Lange years ago about his publication which featured nudist children and teens, calling such images “rancid meat” for pedophiles. Publications such as “Jaybird” started out as “nudist” but quickly evolved into soft porn (http://www.salon.com/2003/04/11/jaybird/)
    And no, I simply don’t believe in the “agree to disagree”  meme. I believe in constructive criticism and healthy debate. You’ve touched upon a nerve here in the nudist world where sometimes nudists become so protective of their own vision of what nude recreation really means that they begin finding offense at things that are really tangentially related. All Nudist, for example, campaigns vigorously against anything that does not fit his own narrow definition of nudism, when the truth is that there is a lot more sexual activity going on at nudist resorts than he would care to admit. Swingers, fetishists and BDSM groups have all been welcome inside the locked gates of nudist resorts for many years. Even Naturist Society gatherings have workshops on polyamory, sexting, zensual massage, group massage, tantric sex, intimacy, nude drawing and photography, body painting, nudism and sex, and much more. Show a typical gathering schedule to any non-nudist and they will say absolutely yes, these are sexual topics.
    And no, I did not say that “any” nude photos are good for naturism. There’s a lot of hardcore pornography out there which certainly has its place in the human experience, but is not representative of the basic naturist idea, which is more about behavior than anything else. 
    Personally I think that nude photos and art which celebrate the human body are positive for nudism. Again, everyone will have his or her own personal definitions on this issue – some will say depictions of erections are OK, some will say they are not. Some will say an open view of the vulva is OK, others will say that it is pornographic. Ultimately, we need to work to end shame about the human body, and there is no reason for nudists and naturists to be threatened by glamour, pin-up, erotic or boudoir photography. The human form has been depicted in art for many centuries, and it shows no sign of letting up. In fact, there is probably more photographic and artistic nudity being produced today than at any other time in history. 
    The main mistake made by nudists over the past 100 years has been the denial of anything sexual related to being nude in social situations. While a typical nudist gathering does not include overt sexual activity, there are indeed many benefits to human sexuality, in both body and mind. But that’s a subject for another thread.
    Bottom line is that I think nudists should embrace nude art and photography even if it does not specifically represent nudism and naturism. Human beings have spent centuries keeping the human body covered for religious and “moral” reasons, and public opinion is not going to be changed overnight. 
    On a personal note, yes, I have a Tumblr blog which is primarily photos, but I am also on Facebook, Google+, Pinterest, Twitter and paper.li. I have also served on AANR’s PR Committee, wrote articles for their Bulletin, and have done many positive things for the campground I belonged to for five years, and am in the process of forming my own travel club. So to label me simply as a “nude photo blogger” is rather unfair.

  • nudiarist  Hey
    Chet, nice to hear from an actual nude photo blogger! Let me start by
    saying everyone may be an artist, but not every photograph is “art.” And
    I know you can debate that point but for the most part, this statement
    is true.
    Van
    Gogh doesn’t need a written message, no, because he is a prolific
    artist that gets his “message” across through his work. There is also
    context there as in – his life, his work and so forth. So when you look
    at his work it is undeniably artistic – whether or not you may think it
    is good or bad is a different topic all together.
    But
    the world is filled with people who are not artists and post content
    under the general umbrella of art but with ulterior motives. If these
    artists truly have a message then, as is the case with many of these
    photo bloggers, they need words or better skills to convey their
    message. I don’t think my problem is not being able to recognize or
    appreciate art here – as you said, I am surrounded by some of the best
    examples in the art world.
    My work with Andy Golub,
    which by the way, is not limited to just modeling, is also a form of
    artistic expression. That said, are you really going to compare the work
    of Andy Golub to some crappy boring nude photos? You want to say Jock Sturges’
    work is on par with all the amateur nude photos on the Internet? I have
    more respect for the arts than that (or perhaps you) as I do not
    consider every single image to be art.
    I
    don’t think there’s anything wrong with voyeur / titillation or even
    crappy photo blogs (at least at face value). Privacy issues aside (in
    the case of the voyeur images) I agree they should not be censored. I
    just think they’re not beneficial to nudism. Most of them, in my
    opinion, shouldn’t be using the word “nudist” when their photos are
    solely about offering sexual gratification to the viewer. They are not
    sending out a message that jives with real core values of naturism. If
    you’re going to subscribe to the idea that any nude photos are good for
    naturism, well then you ought to start promoting magazines like
    Penthouse and Hustler in the name of naturism. The women are naked so,
    based on what you say, it must be good for normalizing nudity and
    promoting naturism.
    Like
    it or not that is my personal opinion and we can agree to disagree (as I
    have not heard any compelling argument that would sway my opinion so
    far).

  • ChristopherJudson

    I don’t know if they are really about naturism, but it still gets people interested. The only thing I have a problem with is the ones with Just boobs everywhere.

  • HappyBare  That is true but baby steps first get the public used to shows like Naked and Afraid (Not always  hard bodies on that show) and Naked Dating and VH1 will either do spin off’s with other types or in coming season expand the demographic past where it is now1

  • FelicityJones HappyBare  Well some of what you speak of is what I call “Glossy Porn” air brushed PhotoShopped etc. but overall I think it’s important to push back against the prudes and religious types in America who for so long have had their hands on the crotch of America so to speak. The Plymouth Rock Pilgrims (Many of whom were pregnant before they hit that rock I might add ) need to be put in their place and that’s what I’m for the simple right of “Your rights don’t get past your nose so keep them out of my rights and we wont’ have a problem”

  • MOsburn

    Mrs. Jones,
    I understand where you are coming from and it has been a question I have pondered many times.  I also worry about the legalities of posting content that you have not acquired permission to use.  Without the context of the photo, you have (as you have already made mention) no idea if the person in the photo when the photo was taken wanted to be a representative of what nudism is about.  You have no idea if the photographer taking the picture wanted their photo to be used that way.  I honestly do not have an answer for you…perhaps it is the context of the blog and the fact that viewers/readers of the blog can either take photos of naked people and get turned on or not.
    You made mention to the social networking and blog site tumblr.  There are millions of subscribers to this site and each of them have their own need to have their page.  Whether it be a devotion to the comic book super anit-hero Deadpool, Devotion to coffee, Halloween or to the appreciation of nudism.  It offers a very simple rudimentary blog interface without any real ability to allow for comments like you have here.  In fact in order to reply to a post you either (a) repost it and leave your comment, or (b) hope the author has ended the post in a question and allowed for comments.  Long story short…subscribers of tumblr follow and gather followers who have similar interests as them.  If I created a tumblr page because I wanted to share my passion of Deadpool (I love this character by the way in case you can’t tell), and I get followers I don’t need to provide context as to why I am sharing a photo from a comic book of Deadpool doing something awesome, funny, or in character.  If I share a photo of someone dressed up as Deadpool who went to a comic book convention and did something that was true to the character of Deadpool I wouldn’t need to leave context because my followers and my audience would all understand why I posted the picture.

    I believe it is to this extent that I believe is the heart of the matter.  A photo of a naked body can be arousing.  It can be artistic.  It can be of a bunch of nudists hanging out having a good time playing volleyball (because that’s what we love to do right?).  The problem is we have no way of controlling how the photograph is going to be viewed.  What may be perceived by you and I as a bunch of people hanging out having a good time ala-nude, but it can still be viewed by someone else sexually.  We can provide all the context that we want stating flat out “THIS IS NOT A SEXUAL SITUATION, THIS IS NOT TO BE VIEWED IN A SEXUAL MANNER.”  It is the audience to the page, the viewer, the follower, the friend, etc…that has control.
    I will finish this up by saying that I do agree that “if” we as authors are intending to be “champions of nudism” by creating blogs that focus on what nudism is, than we should do what we can to make sure that we are projecting the best image possible.  That as good “reporters and editors” we should do our best to get the who, what, where, why, when, how before we start to write.  This means checking sources, and citing those sources to give credit where credit is due.

  • jochanaan

    When I was researching naturism prior to embracing it, such nude photo collections were an important part of my research.  My prior conditioning by the churches made it necessary for me to sample nudism vicariously, by such pictures, so that I could recondition myself not automatically to associate simple nudity with sex.  So I would hate to see them disappear.

  • Well I see the point here but anything that promotes seeing the nude or naked form works for me as most people have so much remedial work to do on the whole issue that you have to start somewhere so don’t be so quick to use terms like “softcore” and Playboy is not porn! It’s been around since the 50’s it’s part of America just like baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and Chevrolet! Nudist sites can be identified certainly but they often get so preachy when we all know a picture can tell a thousand words and a video even more! So how about being sex positive keeping most of it under one umbrella so as to not split the factions and let the true nudist sites speak for themselves!

  • Live and let live! Everyone promotes Naturism as they see is enjoyable to them. A picture says a thousand words in and of itself. What appeals to one does not always appeal to others, that is the way of the world. Some people get educated through visual means others through audio and again others through the written word. We are all different and as long as the message that nudity is OK is getting out then that is all that matters in my humble opinion.

  • nudiarist

    The human race has been creating visual arts since well before recorded history. I’m surprised that you, Felicity, would have trouble understanding the vital importance of art, especially when you live in a city where there are approximately 2000 museums, many of them devoted strictly to paintings, sculpture and photography. There you will find few words other than basic factual information about the artist and the work. Have you ever stood in front of Van Gogh’s “The Starry Night” at MOMA and think that there needs to be some “message” to help you understand or appreciate the painting? Personally I went to professional arts schools and never felt that I needed to explain any painting or photograph that I created.
    I commend you on your participation in Andy Golub’s body painting events in New York City. There you strip naked and are painted in front of hundreds of people who take photographs or simply watch. No words are needed because you are making an artistic statement, as well as being an advocate for body freedom.
    As a society we cherish our cultural heritage in museums and libraries. There is a clear understanding that visual expression is as important as literary. Sometimes the two go together, but we often just need the visual to get the message.
    I agree that some blogs are just for titillation, and there is nothing wrong with that. The bottom line is that we need much more visualization of the human body, not less, to overcome the stigma associated with nudity in our culture. It’s rather odd that the human body, particularly the female form, is a primary muse for artists, and has been for centuries, while at the same time we criminalize the human body in real, everyday life.
    So bring on the nudes, whether they be created for sexual expression and titillation, to promote sheer beauty, or simply as elements of form and design. So next time you become a human canvas for Andy Golub, think about what that really means to you – is it an expression of freedom, is it exhibitionistic, is it sensual, is it purely artistic, or perhaps something else? Maybe, just maybe, the act of being a piece of human art is all of these, or none of these, with interpretation left for the viewer.

  • HappyBare  But the people in these photos might not be nudists at all, and a random naked photo doesn’t convey nudism to a non-nudist. A naked person in a photo also doesn’t make that person a nudist. Some of the photos I see in these blogs are clearly from porn star photo shoots, even if the stars aren’t engaging in sexual behavior.
    Without context, I don’t think naked photos normalize nudity all by themselves. When viewed on a blog entirely composed of nude photos, they just become material for the voyeur to enjoy, and any other viewer not looking for titillation is just going to bounce right off. There needs to be a message to go with the images.
    With the plethora of these blogs and naked photos on the Internet (which are both very easy to find), I think we would’ve already seen the positive effect if they had one.

  • HappyBare

    Not every nudist is young (in age) or beautiful (in traditional media sense), nor in lifestyle (not everyone does exciting naked things), however in their minds the folks are no less nudists than you, and actually, they are no less nudists than any others. Yes, boring, with inane photos, but they are indeed a part of the wide diaspora of nudism, The more naked people we have being naked people the greater will be the normalization of the naked body. This will benefit all of us naked people as well as the greater society around us, and the rest of the world. Thier naked thing may not be your naked thing, but we’re all naked, and that’s good.

  • Toga1cat

    Thus far I see no redeaming value for that type of naturist blog. Just more gratuitous T&A.
    Would the general public really be interested in factual blogs about the real naturist life.

  • RichardSchillig

    Loved the article. I feel that if there is a story line and the pictures help tell the story then yes a photo blog can work really well. Just to have loads of pictures does not do anything to promote naturism, even if those pictures have all types of people in them. 

    The trick is to  have a well balanced piece like yours that get people to sit up and take notice.

    There is of course  the question of the person that posts a picture of himself watering the lawn. Is he a naturist? or is he just poser? Or is he brave and showing the world he is indeed a naturist?  The person that posted the picture of himself probably felt very proud and was trying to show the world that he is a naturist and proud of it. But sadly to most people it is a very boring picture unless there is a story in perhaps the technique of watering a the grass. A load of pictures with no words does not, in my eyes help promote naturism. It is like watching a film with no sound or music. A well written aricle with pictures that help tell the story is beyond most people. 

    Perhaps someone  should write an article on how to create a good picture blog. A few years ago H&E magazine did a  series of articles on what is a good naturist photograph and what is a bad one, what is acceptable and what is not.  

    I have got a naturist writer visiting us in March. I think we should sit down and write an article on what makes a good naturist picture blog and what does not.

  • OzCloggie

    Always looking for “balance”. (After all. I’m born under Libra).  Making people aware of beach “carnivals”, legal locations, etc., is surely as valid as everything else that’s “promoted” via the www, with the focus on the venue, the event etc.. A long, long time ago I found it enjoyable, “liberating” that there was such a thing as “naturism” and that there were/are “legal” locations to enjoy the sun, water, sand, wind, fully on the skin.

  • Dave_n_NM

    I think so, I think it shows how normal naturists are!