Judgmental Nudists Crying Foul

| October 4, 2014 | 3 Comments

The issues YNA has with some judgmental nudists

Judgmental Nudists – Being involved in nudism has its issues. One such issue is that of having an open line of communication. Young Naturists America is a platform that so far has been one of the most active in educating the general public (at least in the past few years). So with that in mind, I would like to take a moment to address a very important point.

When we posted the article about swingers and nudism, we knew we would get a discussion going. That was the intent. Both Felicity and I believe in talking about issues and debating them in an open fashion.

At times the discussion opens our eyes and mind to a new approach. Other times it strengthens our beliefs. But, just like we don’t agree with the way content gets censored, we don’t believe that people have the right to impose their beliefs on others. It is an individual’s right to be unique as long as it does not impose / hurt / damage / infringe (and so forth) on someone else’s right or ability to be the unique person that they truly are.

So while we post about certain issues, that does not mean that we subscribe to certain beliefs. In the case of the swingers post, we see no harm in being able to talk about it openly. It is a hot button topic in the nudist world but very few have been willing to truly explain what it is, what it means and so forth. At the end of the day, as long as we can discuss topics openly, we stand a chance of gaining acceptance. The way some people reacted is quite hypocritical.

Some nudists took a strong judgmental stance with regards to swinging. So to all the judgmental nudists out there, we would just like to say – if you cant accept others, why should they accept you?

This short post (our first naked shorts) about judgmental nudists was published by Young Naturists and Nudists America YNA

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Jordan Blum is a lifelong nudie and co-founder of Young Naturists America.
  • Infidelis

    “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” – Aristotle.
    We nudists must always keep that in mind, lest we just follow the sad examples of history where the persecuted eventually become persecutors!
    And let’s stop denying our own sexuality. Nudity is neither sexual nor asexual, it just is.

    When I was younger I sometimes shared a bed with a good female friend in my camper van and when we visited each other. Since we usually slept naked anyway we didn’t see a reason to be dressed just because we were sharing the bed. But this did not mean that we had to have sex either. All we ever did was cuddle up. But even if we did have sex, would that have made us swingers?
    “…What man’s law shall bind you if you break your yoke but upon no man’s prison
    door?
    What laws shall you fear if you dance but stumble against no man’s iron chains?
    And who is he that shall bring you to judgment if you tear off your garment yet
    leave it in no man’s path?
    People of Orphalese, you can muffle the drum, and you can loosen the strings of
    the lyre, but who shall command the skylark not to sing”
    – On Laws, The Prophet, Kahil Gibran – http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jrcole/gibran/prophet/prophet.htm#Laws

  • nudiarist

    I’ve said over and over that nudists simply have to stop being so high and mighty about the “purity” of nudism and naturism, and to develop some tolerance of other lifestyles. First of all, the public does not buy the notion that nude recreation is “wholesome” and completely non-sexual since there are plenty of adult activities already going on, including lingerie dances, heavy drinking, and more. Clubs have knowingly admitted furry fetish groups, BDSM clubs, and swingers. It’s time for organized nudism to have this discussion and come to terms with reality.
    AANR recently posted an article “That Old Nude vs. Sex Thing” in which the following statement was made: “…it’s alright to be the sexual human beings that we are” - http://www.aanr.com/blog/that-old-nude-vs-sex-thing/
    Acceptance and tolerance of others does not mean that one’s own principles will be compromised. As it stands right now, the “one size fits all” definition of nudism no longer applies. Cec Cinder, in his book “The Nudist Idea”, offers his definition:
    Definition of nudism 
    1. It must be a group activity. Solo nakedness, however pleasant, is not nudism. 
    2. It must be mixed-sex. The YMCA swimming pool on Thursday night is not nudism. 
    3. It must be complete. No “le minimums”, which subtly – or perhaps blatently – contradict the entire nudist spirit. 
    4. It must be social. Not religious fanatics emulating Adam and Eve. 
    5. It must be self-conscious. Stone Age tribes going completely naked in the jungles of the Amazon or the highlands of New Guinea are not nudists. They just “are”.

    Cinder does not define nudism in terms of age, and certainly not all AANR and TNS clubs welcome children. I think that it’s perfectly reasonable to have separate family nudism as well as adult nudism with compromising the idea.
    In addition, Cinder does not mention anything about overt sexual behavior. Perhaps he meant this as a “given”, yet he omits this particular point. It would seem to me that if a group of people agree on a standard of behavior for their particular event or club, then it can still fall under Cinder’s definition of nudism.
    Cinder’s point #2 that it “must be mixed-sex” is outdated in 2014, since a third of all states now allow same sex marriage. To limit the definition in this way is anachronistic. 
    Bottom line is that if organized nudism is to survive, it must become more tolerant, and certainly more honest and open. Instead of continuing to kick out clubs from their networks, the organizations need to implement a ratings system. When people visit a resort they should know what to expect.
    I hope that AANR’s new Executive Director Bill Schroer addresses this issue soon. Discussion of these issues is sorely overdue, and I applaud YNA for confronting issues such as swinging and polyamory head on.

  • MichelleWallen

    I thought it a great educational piece on the topic. Swingers are (in my experience) at all nudist resorts- at least at every one I’ve been to. Maybe attending these places as a single female I get approached more often- I don’t know. But no harm in discussion of any topic. We as people will only grow if we open ourselves up to learning. Doesn’t mean you have to agree or follow the practice, but be open to the fact that the world doesn’t revolve around you, and different beliefs and the diversity of people make life fun and interesting.